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uoitscienceguy Campus Garbage man
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| Although you sound like a dork to me, you are right about getting into medical school after undergrad at UOIT. Many students have gone onto medical schools across Canada after getting their UOIT undergrad, including UofT medical school. |
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lol wtfs your point?
Is it better to go to UofT and have a small shot at getting a solid GPA or go to UOIT and have a very good shot at getting a high GPA?
It's people like you who waste away their life making stupid decisions for the "prestige" but then when all is said and done... you're left with a useless degree and have no way out.
How about someone who can actually answer any of my questions ?? |
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| You need to hear a reply from someone who has actually traveled this path. UOIT only has a fraction of the students that UofT has. For that reason alone, there would normally be far fewer students than UofT who are admitted to med school each year. Even if there are many UOIT grads in med school, those students probably don't hang out in these forums. They're much too busy and far fewer in numbers for the reason I mentioned. |
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| uoitscienceguy wrote: |
| Anonymous wrote: |
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| Although you sound like a dork to me, you are right about getting into medical school after undergrad at UOIT. Many students have gone onto medical schools across Canada after getting their UOIT undergrad, including UofT medical school. |
UOIT student trying to justify his school spotted |
lol wtfs your point?
Is it better to go to UofT and have a small shot at getting a solid GPA or go to UOIT and have a very good shot at getting a high GPA?
It's people like you who waste away their life making stupid decisions for the "prestige" but then when all is said and done... you're left with a useless degree and have no way out.
How about someone who can actually answer any of my questions ?? |
The point was a self conscious, concerned UOIT student was trying to blatantly boost his school's image.
And you're right, trying to game the system is indeed the smart choice. That way, when you don't get into med school (going by the odds) you have a worthwhile degree from a well respected university to fall back on. Oh wait....
And how about an OP who is smart enough to look for better answers?? |
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| There will always be people trying to game the system. UOIT doesn't even post their graduated rates in their science program for the CUDO stats. Without knowing if the rate is 90 percent or 50 percent, how can one be sure if there's a good chance of getting the grades competitive for med school? |
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uoitscienceguy Campus Garbage man
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| uoitscienceguy wrote: |
| Anonymous wrote: |
| Anonymous wrote: |
| Although you sound like a dork to me, you are right about getting into medical school after undergrad at UOIT. Many students have gone onto medical schools across Canada after getting their UOIT undergrad, including UofT medical school. |
UOIT student trying to justify his school spotted |
lol wtfs your point?
Is it better to go to UofT and have a small shot at getting a solid GPA or go to UOIT and have a very good shot at getting a high GPA?
It's people like you who waste away their life making stupid decisions for the "prestige" but then when all is said and done... you're left with a useless degree and have no way out.
How about someone who can actually answer any of my questions ?? |
The point was a self conscious, concerned UOIT student was trying to blatantly boost his school's image.
And you're right, trying to game the system is indeed the smart choice. That way, when you don't get into med school (going by the odds) you have a worthwhile degree from a well respected university to fall back on. Oh wait....
And how about an OP who is smart enough to look for better answers?? |
lol a biology degree is useless regardless of the institution. If one decides to take this path, they can only improve their odds. Going to UofT destroys your odds. |
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uoitscienceguy Campus Garbage man
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| There will always be people trying to game the system. UOIT doesn't even post their graduated rates in their science program for the CUDO stats. Without knowing if the rate is 90 percent or 50 percent, how can one be sure if there's a good chance of getting the grades competitive for med school? |
What's a better alternative? |
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:17 am Post subject: RE: UOIT Science Programs and Medical School |
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Anyone who thinks that studying science (or engineering) at UOIT will be any less difficult than doing so at a more 'prestigious' or reputable institution is in for the shock of their life. All Canadian universities are accredited and governed by the same respective organizations and this means that ALL university programs will be the product of the same rigorous regulatory scrutiny. UOIT has world class faculty (many of which are graduates of McGill, UofT and other 'prestigious' universities) and two years ago UOIT graduated its first group of future doctors. (a few graduates were accepted into medical schools). This is only noteworthy because UOIT is merely a decade old school. Medical schools DO NOT discriminate against undergraduate degrees from lesser known or newer institutions and they'll focus solely on your GPA, MCAT marks (for Med schools which require MCATS) and volunteer/extracurricular activities, experiences, character etc. People do your research before you offer up your biased and uneducated opinion as fact. People's futures are at stake here and they should not be basing big decisions like this on your pretentious contentions.
Source: Transfer student who's GPA has dropped (to a still very respectable 3.6) since leaving UWO to attend UOIT. |
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PharmacyHopeful2012 Newbie
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OMFG I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE WHO'S DOING THE SAME THING AS ME!
Like my username I'm trying to get into pharmacy, and somehow I applied to UOIT for lifescience/life science management.
I'm hoping to get as high mark as possible in the two years of undergrad and then get into UFT for pharmacy or Waterloo.
My average is like 83, not high but I could have gone to other places like guelph, etc, ( who supposedly have better reputation since UOIT is the worse or say people say). |
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NinjaSquirt Campus Garbage man
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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To OP, you seem really confident in your plan to get into med school. If so, why ask about it? My first response and clearly the response of others is you didn't get the acceptance. I thought better of it, but it's not a unreasonable first response to jump to.
No, it is not a fact that med schools don't care what school you're from. Admissions people are NOT robots, they cannot be completely objective and especially if you're applying into a Canadian Med school, you can be pretty sure that people will recognize names like UofT and also UOIT except the former will be viewed positively and the latter negative. Sorry, that's just how people are.
As for the two paths: failing and curving at U of T vs. just getting good grades at UOIT, you just have weigh out the two.
A 3.9 at UOIT will beat out a 3.3 at U of T probably but be reasonable... 3.8 vs. 3.7? 3.9 vs. 3.8? There's room for discussion.
I have a friend who's in U of T Engineering Sci, the guy gets 25% on almost all midterms and exams and keeps a 3.84 GPA.
I have another friend who goes to UOIT for Computer Sci (He has to take Calc + Bio + Physics all that fun stuff). He gets 2.7 GPA because he wasn't competitive to begin with.
People who work hard do well. People who don't, don't (to be fair both of friends give above drink and party alot. The former is just smarter).
You claim to have the lowest grade of 85 and highest 97. If you're that confident about yourself, go to U of T, if you're good enough, no one will screw you out of medical school because of a curve.
As for your questions:
1. I asked my UOIT friend and he said about a B for the average. As for the diffculty level, I don't know but here's the double edged sword of Science. It doesn't get easier/harder based on university. Sorry. If you're bad, you'll fail everywhere.
2. No idea.
3. The guy also got about 80% average in his grade 12 year and 2.7 = about 65-69. Count on about 15% average drop.
4. In UOIT, work hard. In U of T, work hard and pray that people around you are stupider than you. Otherwise, there's no diffculty change in sciences between schools.
5. No idea.
6. No idea.
I don't go to UOIT personally because I want "prestige" (seriously, what's wrong with prestige?) and can only recount second hand experience to you but I hope it helps.
Oh, and to put things into perspective: I'm in McGill. A girl in my English Class self-proclaims she's never gotten below an A in 4 years of studying biology (except for this English cause the prof is a **** btw his last name is Lecker anyone who encounters this guy, don't take his class). She also self-proclaims that her odds of getting into med school, 1/3000. Why? She wasn't the president of X and the organizer of Y. I guess the moral is: Do LOTS of extracurricular activities. Assuming you're above a 3.8, that may be even more important than a 4.0. |
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PharmacyHopeful2012 Newbie
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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To OP, you seem really confident in your plan to get into med school. If so, why ask about it? My first response and clearly the response of others is you didn't get the acceptance. I thought better of it, but it's not a unreasonable first response to jump to.
No, it is not a fact that med schools don't care what school you're from. Admissions people are NOT robots, they cannot be completely objective and especially if you're applying into a Canadian Med school, you can be pretty sure that people will recognize names like UofT and also UOIT except the former will be viewed positively and the latter negative. Sorry, that's just how people are.
As for the two paths: failing and curving at U of T vs. just getting good grades at UOIT, you just have weigh out the two.
A 3.9 at UOIT will beat out a 3.3 at U of T probably but be reasonable... 3.8 vs. 3.7? 3.9 vs. 3.8? There's room for discussion.
I have a friend who's in U of T Engineering Sci, the guy gets 25% on almost all midterms and exams and keeps a 3.84 GPA.
I have another friend who goes to UOIT for Computer Sci (He has to take Calc + Bio + Physics all that fun stuff). He gets 2.7 GPA because he wasn't competitive to begin with.
People who work hard do well. People who don't, don't (to be fair both of friends give above drink and party alot. The former is just smarter).
You claim to have the lowest grade of 85 and highest 97. If you're that confident about yourself, go to U of T, if you're good enough, no one will screw you out of medical school because of a curve.
As for your questions:
1. I asked my UOIT friend and he said about a B for the average. As for the diffculty level, I don't know but here's the double edged sword of Science. It doesn't get easier/harder based on university. Sorry. If you're bad, you'll fail everywhere.
2. No idea.
3. The guy also got about 80% average in his grade 12 year and 2.7 = about 65-69. Count on about 15% average drop.
4. In UOIT, work hard. In U of T, work hard and pray that people around you are stupider than you. Otherwise, there's no diffculty change in sciences between schools.
5. No idea.
6. No idea.
I don't go to UOIT personally because I want "prestige" (seriously, what's wrong with prestige?) and can only recount second hand experience to you but I hope it helps.
Oh, and to put things into perspective: I'm in McGill. A girl in my English Class self-proclaims she's never gotten below an A in 4 years of studying biology (except for this English cause the prof is a **** btw his last name is Lecker anyone who encounters this guy, don't take his class). She also self-proclaims that her odds of getting into med school, 1/3000. Why? She wasn't the president of X and the organizer of Y. I guess the moral is: Do LOTS of extracurricular activities. Assuming you're above a 3.8, that may be even more important than a 4.0. |
Your not getting the point, the point he's trying to make is wouldn't WORKING HARD at UOIT be more beneficial than WORKING HARD at UFT when applying to med school.
For example if I worked really hard and got a 3.7GPA at UOIT but putting the same effort at UFT will only get me a 3.0, wouldn't it be smarter to go to UOIT.
Speaking for me, I plan to get into a pharmacy program so I actually won't even be getting a degree at UOIT given I am accepted in two years, I will be getting my certificate at whatever pharmacy program I'm in.
Obviously assuming I am accepted. An easy example, working hard at a private school = Pay for your marks get accepted to any university, working hard at a a competitive highschool = may not be accepted to some uni's. This is reality, working hard should already be a given. |
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