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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: McMaster vs. Western engineering Reply with quote

Im torn between Mac and western engineering. Ive been set on mac for a long time but then I realized western had a program where you can get a degree in computer science and electrical engineering in 5 years....something Im very interested in.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem like Mac has this program...but I do really want to go to mac Sad

Any suggestions/comments?

My friend is also trying to convince me to go to university of ottawa, but considering I didn't even know they had an engineering program until 2 days ago I dont imagine they have much of a reputation.

BTW dont tell me anything about any schools other than western, ottawa, or mac.....cuz ive already narrowed it down to these three and I dont want to hear anything about waterloo, U of T, McGill or Queens.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cannot go to a university for a program you want, but they don't have. I hope that helps you narrow your choices.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the thing is, the difference in the program is not huge.

At western I can get two majors in 5 years (a B,Sc and a B,E,Sc,), while at mac they dont have dual degree options so I could only get a bachelors degree in electrcal engineering and a minor in something else.

If it was the same program I'd rather go to mac but it would be nice to have two degrees...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But the thing is, the difference in the program is not huge.

At western I can get two majors in 5 years (a B,Sc and a B,E,Sc,), while at mac they dont have dual degree options so I could only get a bachelors degree in electrcal engineering and a minor in something else.

If it was the same program I'd rather go to mac but it would be nice to have two degrees...


Western is a lot more difficult than Mac to make it through!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You sure? I thought western's engineering wasn't as competitive as most of their other programs.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You sure? I thought western's engineering wasn't as competitive as most of their other programs.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cassak wrote:
You sure? I thought western's engineering wasn't as competitive as most of their other programs.


It is very hard to make it through the course at UWO.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my family members is attending McMaster and it's a very rigorous course load. Not sure about Western, however. I'm actually attending Western next year Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Western is easy. Schools like Lakehead and Windsor and tougher than UWO...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kinda find that hard to believe.

The main thing that makes certain schools more difficult than others is the bell curve....If a school accepts alot of really smart students, its harder to get higher marks because profs generally make it so that they have a certain number of students in each grade bracket. More smart students means you will find it harder to get into the higher bracket.

Since western has one of the highest entrance averages in canada, it should be harder to get higher marks there.

However, western is not that well-known for its engineering so maybe it doesn't have as many smart kids in this program. Anyone know if this is true?

Btw, anyone currently in university...do you know if profs actually do mark their students based on a bell curve? I find it hard to belive but Ive heard alot of them do this.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cassak wrote:
I kinda find that hard to believe.

The main thing that makes certain schools more difficult than others is the bell curve....If a school accepts alot of really smart students, its harder to get higher marks because profs generally make it so that they have a certain number of students in each grade bracket. More smart students means you will find it harder to get into the higher bracket.

Since western has one of the highest entrance averages in canada, it should be harder to get higher marks there.

However, western is not that well-known for its engineering so maybe it doesn't have as many smart kids in this program. Anyone know if this is true?

Btw, anyone currently in university...do you know if profs actually do mark their students based on a bell curve? I find it hard to belive but Ive heard alot of them do this.


Nothing is bell-curved at UWO.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cassak wrote:
I kinda find that hard to believe.

The main thing that makes certain schools more difficult than others is the bell curve....If a school accepts alot of really smart students, its harder to get higher marks because profs generally make it so that they have a certain number of students in each grade bracket. More smart students means you will find it harder to get into the higher bracket.

Since western has one of the highest entrance averages in canada, it should be harder to get higher marks there.

However, western is not that well-known for its engineering so maybe it doesn't have as many smart kids in this program. Anyone know if this is true?

Btw, anyone currently in university...do you know if profs actually do mark their students based on a bell curve? I find it hard to belive but Ive heard alot of them do this.


All schools are bell-curved - regardless of the school. Universities have a quota (sad but true) of how many students they're allowed to graduate each year. This is mandated by the government to provide security by keeping the work force unsaturated. If UWO is allowed to graduate X number of students but only Y drop/fail while X<Y then the bell curve is put into effect. And that 65/70 you were passing with is now a fail.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cassak wrote:
I kinda find that hard to believe.

The main thing that makes certain schools more difficult than others is the bell curve....If a school accepts alot of really smart students, its harder to get higher marks because profs generally make it so that they have a certain number of students in each grade bracket. More smart students means you will find it harder to get into the higher bracket.

Since western has one of the highest entrance averages in canada, it should be harder to get higher marks there.

However, western is not that well-known for its engineering so maybe it doesn't have as many smart kids in this program. Anyone know if this is true?

Btw, anyone currently in university...do you know if profs actually do mark their students based on a bell curve? I find it hard to belive but Ive heard alot of them do this.


All schools are bell-curved - regardless of the school. Universities have a quota (sad but true) of how many students they're allowed to graduate each year. This is mandated by the government to provide security by keeping the work force unsaturated. If UWO is allowed to graduate X number of students but only Y drop/fail while X<Y then the bell curve is put into effect. And that 65/70 you were passing with is now a fail.


Not everything is bell-curved. They can't afford to pass everyone if everyone fails. They have a reputation to uphold, and cannot pass students that genuinely do not understand the concepts taught. I am from UWO.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anonymous wrote:
Cassak wrote:
I kinda find that hard to believe.

The main thing that makes certain schools more difficult than others is the bell curve....If a school accepts alot of really smart students, its harder to get higher marks because profs generally make it so that they have a certain number of students in each grade bracket. More smart students means you will find it harder to get into the higher bracket.

Since western has one of the highest entrance averages in canada, it should be harder to get higher marks there.

However, western is not that well-known for its engineering so maybe it doesn't have as many smart kids in this program. Anyone know if this is true?

Btw, anyone currently in university...do you know if profs actually do mark their students based on a bell curve? I find it hard to belive but Ive heard alot of them do this.


All schools are bell-curved - regardless of the school. Universities have a quota (sad but true) of how many students they're allowed to graduate each year. This is mandated by the government to provide security by keeping the work force unsaturated. If UWO is allowed to graduate X number of students but only Y drop/fail while X<Y then the bell curve is put into effect. And that 65/70 you were passing with is now a fail.


Not everything is bell-curved. They can't afford to pass everyone if everyone fails. They have a reputation to uphold, and cannot pass students that genuinely do not understand the concepts taught. I am from UWO.


I'm also from UWO (Engineering) and the average is the bell curve. If a class average ends up at 45% that 45% is the new 60% as to allow the majority of students to pass. That's how it is. If your marks are bellow the curve too bad so sad.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:

I'm also from UWO (Engineering) and the average is the bell curve. If a class average ends up at 45% that 45% is the new 60% as to allow the majority of students to pass. That's how it is. If your marks are bellow the curve too bad so sad.


Do you mind telling us about the program at all? What year are you in? What do you think of it so far?
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