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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UBC is better but SFU is also good!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFU clearly is the best school for business. I spent two years at UBC, 1 at TRU, and 2 at SFU. And I can see what MaClean's has rated SFU as the number one business school in BC.
Hands down. Instruction is better, course design is better, campus...worse if you want extra-curricular activities, but MaCleans is right. IMO
Besides, entrance to SFU business is what 92% now? UBC... was 82 when I went... I would suggest starting at SFU as it will be harder to enter later on.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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SFU clearly is the best school for business. I spent two years at UBC, 1 at TRU, and 2 at SFU. And I can see what MaClean's has rated SFU as the number one business school in BC.
Hands down. Instruction is better, course design is better, campus...worse if you want extra-curricular activities, but MaCleans is right. IMO
Besides, entrance to SFU business is what 92% now? UBC... was 82 when I went... I would suggest starting at SFU as it will be harder to enter later on.

I wouldn't read too much into the grades. Success in business depends on more than being a good book worm. UBC's 82% is quite adequate. That said, SFU's program is very good from what I've heard.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:18 pm    Post subject: UBC Commerce vs. SFU Business Reply with quote

UBC Commerce has only ONE joint major program (with computing science), SFU Business has EIGHT joint major and TWO joint honours programs (with communication, computing science, economics, geography, interactive arts and technology, Latin American studies, molecular biology and chemistry, and psychology).

UBC Commerce only introduced co-op few years ago and SFU Business has been offering co-op for decades.

UBC Commerce only allows students to officially take one option (e.g. accounting) and if they somehow managed to complete two, UBC finally gave in (few years ago) and agreed to put the second option on the transcript; SFU Business allows students to take as many options in any combinations they want (i.e. accounting, finance, MIS...)

UBC Commerce does NOT allow students to double major with any other disciplines; SFU Business students may double major with any other disciplines, e.g. Arts, Science, Engineering.

UBC Commerce offers NO double degree program; SFU recently introduced a five-year co-op double degree program with Engineering Science.

UBC Commerce is easier to get in compared to SFU Business based on the number of applicants vs. number of seats offered as well as the cut-off grade.

Without a shadow of doubt, SFU Business is substantially superior to UBC Commerce!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will you STFU?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UBC is good, SFU sucks!! Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i've just finished a year a UBC sauder. Let me tell you this, UBC and SFU both suck. If you want to go to a business school, leave Western Canada. It doesn't matter who has more co-op; if you're in Vancouver, you won't get into anything good.

1. UBC has a better name, so if you're asian, ask yourself this: if i didn't get into sauder, where would I go? Ans: SFU. If I didn't get into SFU, where would I go? Ans: UBC wouldn't have accepted me anyways, so maybe nowhere.

2. UBC has the supplementary application, SFU doesn't. So anyone who makes an argument about how SFU grades are higher, you're ignorant. For regular people like me, there is an inverse relationship between extra-curricular activities and grades (with exceptions, of course). The entrance average for grads '13 at sauder was ~92% (as said by our dean). So that means the average student there has an excellent balance of ECs and grades, which is what business is about. Heck, if you went to SFU, you could have studied in a closet all night, befriend no one, network with no one, and still get in, which is contrary to the idea of business.

3. Most business schools have a supplementary application so they can make sure you're not that worm who lives out of that physics textbook you love in high school, like Schulich, Queen's Commerce, Ivey, etc. SFU should get with the mainstream philosophy of the more popular business schools.

4. UBC has PMF. Nothing can beat PMF in Canada. If you don't know what PMF is, it gives you like $2 million to invest in in your third and fourth year. Only a small niche of students get to do this but it is a heck of an opportunity EVEN if you're not interested in finance b/c your network, foundation and experience will be extremely strong after your graduation. PMF is an excellent resume-stuffer that nothing can beat. PMF grads have a 100% (seriously) chance of leaving Vancouver for immediate employment at major firm-headquarters in New York, Toronto or London.

5. Honestly, every year a number of graduates get into crazy-a** firms like Goldman Sachs, Blackstone Group, Boston Consulting Group, and the Big 4. If you are an elitist, you probably wouldn't be deciphering between going to ubc or sfu. But if you are, Goldman Sachs (for example as being one of the world's most elite banks) is likely to come to UBC than SFU. The PMF program has definitely made the larger, more reputable business organizations notice UBC a lot more now. It doesn't matter whether you like HR or MIS or accounting, the expertise and networks from so many years of PMF has made the business students at UBC more well-known. I don't think Goldman Sachs or Morgan Stanley have even heard of the school SFU before, nor have they ever had an SFU graduate at their firms' headquarters. If you went to SFU, the best position you can be in is working at HSBC Canada's HQ or working for the Big 4 in Vancouver ROFL.

6. If you want to make it big, go somewhere other than UBC or SFU. If you want to leave Vancouver for employment go to UBC. If you want to stay in Vancouver forever, go to SFU.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're joking, right? What's UBC? That's a question most Goldman Sachs people would be asking. For your information, Goldman hires mostly from places like Harvard, Penn, and Yale. Few people in the U.S. have heard of UBC, because nobody there cares much about Canada. That is a fact! You think Goldman would hire a UBC grad over one from SFU, you're dreaming. Get over yourself.
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not believe everything you read from UBC students / alumni on SFU Business because they may not know what they are talking about!

FYI - SFU Business admission requirements:

Admission decisions are based on a combination of a student’s academic performance and an assessment of their broad based admissions form. Successful applicants will have strong academic performance and overall leadership and achievement.

Students should have demonstrated experience in one or more of the following extra-curricular areas: entrepreneurship, social activism, athletics, arts (performing, visual, music, and writing), community leadership and/or involvement, career progression or other areas.
Applicants must have an interim admission average of 80% or higher and meet the university admission requirements.

If students expect interim grades to be 95% or higher, then the Broad Based Admissions form does not need to be completed.

Regardless of current grades, if interim grades are below 95% and you have not filled out the Broad Based Admissions form, unfortunately, you will not be considered for admission to SFU Business.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
You're joking, right? What's UBC? That's a question most Goldman Sachs people would be asking. For your information, Goldman hires mostly from places like Harvard, Penn, and Yale. Few people in the U.S. have heard of UBC, because nobody there cares much about Canada. That is a fact! You think Goldman would hire a UBC grad over one from SFU, you're dreaming. Get over yourself.


Chill out and get your facts straight.

I know several SFU/UBC alumnus who are working in Goldman in HK. Two PMF students also got into Goldman full-time this year - one in Calgary and one in NY. That said, if you're thinking of working outside of BC, UBC does provide more opportunities, particularly if you want to work in Toronto. It's hard enough as it is to compete with east coast schools, but UBC's brand name is more well-known than SFU's in the east.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reply to Guest wrote:
Do not believe everything you read from UBC students / alumni on SFU Business because they may not know what they are talking about!

FYI - SFU Business admission requirements:

Admission decisions are based on a combination of a student’s academic performance and an assessment of their broad based admissions form. Successful applicants will have strong academic performance and overall leadership and achievement.

Students should have demonstrated experience in one or more of the following extra-curricular areas: entrepreneurship, social activism, athletics, arts (performing, visual, music, and writing), community leadership and/or involvement, career progression or other areas.
Applicants must have an interim admission average of 80% or higher and meet the university admission requirements.

If students expect interim grades to be 95% or higher, then the Broad Based Admissions form does not need to be completed.

Regardless of current grades, if interim grades are below 95% and you have not filled out the Broad Based Admissions form, unfortunately, you will not be considered for admission to SFU Business.


This broad based admission was only newly introduced for candidates applying for SFU's fall 2010 term. This is a positive step from SFU towards becoming a modern business school. However, they are still leaps away from Sauder.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
You're joking, right? What's UBC? That's a question most Goldman Sachs people would be asking. For your information, Goldman hires mostly from places like Harvard, Penn, and Yale. Few people in the U.S. have heard of UBC, because nobody there cares much about Canada. That is a fact! You think Goldman would hire a UBC grad over one from SFU, you're dreaming. Get over yourself.


It's not a fact if you cannot justify it with reasonable sources. Creating assumptions and false statements in an attempt to prove your own belief is very immature, narrow-minded, and uncivilized. Furthermore, personal attacks do not appear persuasive on your part. More research on the most current information regarding PMF and its alumni would be much appreciated by our forum members.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You're joking, right? What's UBC? That's a question most Goldman Sachs people would be asking. For your information, Goldman hires mostly from places like Harvard, Penn, and Yale. Few people in the U.S. have heard of UBC, because nobody there cares much about Canada. That is a fact! You think Goldman would hire a UBC grad over one from SFU, you're dreaming. Get over yourself.


It's not a fact if you cannot justify it with reasonable sources. Creating assumptions and false statements in an attempt to prove your own belief is very immature, narrow-minded, and uncivilized. Furthermore, personal attacks do not appear persuasive on your part. More research on the most current information regarding PMF and its alumni would be much appreciated by our forum members.

Calling the other poster "immature, narrow-minded and uncivilized" doesn't support your argument either. If anything, it's immature to say Goldman Sachs would hire a UBC over a grad from any other Canadian university, SFU in particular.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where the f*** are you people getting your info from? My brother got rejected from Sauder with a 95 average.
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